user271 از کشور ناشناخته عضو از دسامبر -0001 user271 25 ژانویهٔ 2014 11:55 Some basics on my (now) test shop: I'm not paying VAT or any similar taxes. In my country there's a revenue limit (say, EUR 9.000/year) and my business is too tiny. I'm only selling in my country and zones are meaningless (same tax level everywhere). (Therefore) I have to hide (disable, not delete) every tax indication on the shop I tried it, with no luck. a) On cat. view the price is right (5,90) http://www.popdivari.fi/poppidiva/movies-c-1 b) On the Product page (click the pic) the price is affected by (some mysterious) tax rate (4,28) How do I do it? -- Would the right settings do, or is some tricks on the code level needed?
litecart Main Crew از کشور Sweden عضو از فوریهٔ 2013 litecart 29 ژانویهٔ 2014 04:04 If you are not paying VAT, you should probably not charge VAT so therefore you wouldn't need any tax rates and classes set. Make sure there are none configured. Same as 1 If no tax is calculated in the background the text below the price will display ""Excluding tax"". This means there either is no tax configured or the customer have selected to display prices excl. tax. If you are still having issues with tax after clearing your tax, send us an e-mail to support (at) litecart.net with FTP and admin credentials. We will then make sure this not a bug. I am a bit concerned about the listing and produt page showing two different prices. LiteCart 1.1.0.1 has a fix for select_region.php where there was an issue enabling/disabling tax in some stores depending on the store configuration.
blackyfreud Developer از کشور Germany عضو از آوریل 2023 blackyfreud 30 آوریل 2023 21:52 [quote]3. If no tax is calculated in the background the text below the price will display ""Excluding tax"". This means there either is no tax configured or the customer have selected to display prices excl. tax.[/quote] This is a problem ... as a sole trader, who is not registered for vat, and thus not allowed to charge VAT, having a text that kind of implies that a tax which shouldn't be charged is excluded, is confusing and simply wrong .... it would be better here to have a general setting in the shop which completely disables VAT in the whole shop. That would then remove the VAT column in any order confirmation or invoice and on the product page. In this particular case it would also be nice to be able to add a message to the invoice/order copy that states something like "We are a small business not registered for VAT and thus provide a value added tax free service." ... could be configurable. In Germany it is even compulsory to have a notice on the the invoice ... e.g. "Value added tax free services according to §19 UStG." Would be great if this could be considered in a future version of the shop :)
tim Founder از کشور Sweden عضو از مهٔ 2013 tim 1 مهٔ 2023 12:36 @blackyfreud If you are not charging tax the customer will probably have to pay VAT when the package reach the border, or pay import tax with their tax declaration reports. By stating the amount does not include tax you kind of inform the client that the amounts does not cover any charges for VAT that governments might enforce. Being a member of the European Union your business would be subject to the One Stop Shop VAT charge when doing sales across the national borders. Yes, even german small businesses with VAT exempt. I understand smaller businesses in Germany can be exempt from VAT when doing national sales. If you want to replace "Excluding Tax" with something else edit the lines: https://github.com/litecart/litecart/search?q=excluding+tax I will consider your proposal to remove the lines entirely when the no tax rates applies to a price.
harry Merchant از کشور Netherlands عضو از آوریل 2023 harry 1 مهٔ 2023 19:57 @blackyfreud Try this: Create an empty Tax Class (without a rate) and name it "Tax0" for example. You will notice that when you set this Tax Class in your product the price incl and excl are always the same. Now change the translation of [title_including_tax] as well as [title_excluding_tax] both to "VAT Exempt". Because "Tax0" contains no Rate, a VAT % is not shown.
blackyfreud Developer از کشور Germany عضو از آوریل 2023 blackyfreud 1 مهٔ 2023 21:29 @tim ... thanks for your fast reply. I have been doing business in Germany for many years as a small business - at first charging VAT and now not (as my income is now below the threshold, only work part-time). So currently this puts a limit to my allowed yearly income (currently 22,000 Euro). If I go over that, then I have to start charging VAT ... the usual way. You are right in that, if I buy something from a business I cannot get back the VAT on it as would be usual, but I also cannot charge my customers VAT. If I sell a service (being a programmer) it does not matter if the company I am selling to is in the EU or outside of it - I can't charge VAT. If I sell a physical product it's the same, however then as you point out the recipient (depending on where he is - i.e. outside of the EU) may have to pay tax it as it goes through his local customs office, but that's is not my concern. Like I said, as a "German Kleingewerbe" I have to state this clause about providing VAT free services on my invoices, if I where a small business = sole trader in an other EU country this regulation about putting that clause on the invoice probably does not apply, but the rest about charging VAT does in different ways. In Ireland (where my sister lives) the regulations for sole traders are more complicated - the Irish tax system differentiates between services and selling goods - here the income threshold before needing to register for VAT are 10,000 Euro for goods and 37,500 for services. I already managed to not show the "excluding VAT" in the products page and will need to do the same in the order_copy and other places ... maybe its possible to do it with a vmod add-in? I'm going to look into it - Really like the idea and functionality behind that. Here the gorey details if you like tax stuff (I hate it) - https://www.kleinunternehmer.de/kleinunternehmerregelung.htm#:~:text=Allgemein%20ausgedr%C3%BCckt%3A,Ihnen%20der%20Kleinunternehmer%2DStatus%20erhalten. @harry - thanks for that - that's also a neat idea. Anyway, love litecart a lot - thanks so much - so much nicer to work with than a bloated and complicated opencart :)